{"id":184,"date":"2023-01-31T06:01:39","date_gmt":"2023-01-31T06:01:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/?p=184"},"modified":"2023-01-31T06:01:39","modified_gmt":"2023-01-31T06:01:39","slug":"hunkar-haci-bektas-veli-soyu-celebiler-ve-mucerred-dervisligin-ve-dedebabaligin-ortaya-cikisi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/?p=184","title":{"rendered":"H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli Soyu (\u00c7elebiler) ve M\u00fccerred Dervi\u015fli\u011fin ve Dedebabal\u0131\u011f\u0131n Ortaya \u00c7\u0131k\u0131\u015f\u0131"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xdj266r x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli Hakka y\u00fcr\u00fcd\u00fckten 280 y\u0131l sonra ve \u015eah Kalender Abdal \u00c7elebi ayaklanmas\u0131n\u0131n ard\u0131ndan, yani 1551&#8217;de &#8216;Dedebabal\u0131k&#8217; ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131.Kanuni Sultan S\u00fcleyman&#8217;\u0131n Mahidevran Hatundan o\u011flu \u015eehzade Mustafa Yeni\u00e7eri Oca\u011f\u0131ndaki etkisi bilindi\u011fi i\u00e7in Kalender \u015eah ayaklanmas\u0131 ile sars\u0131lan Osmanl\u0131 Mahidevran Hatunun abisi \u015eehzade Mustafa&#8217;n\u0131n day\u0131s\u0131 Server Ali Pa\u015fay\u0131 Dedebaba yap\u0131p dergah\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131na ge\u00e7irmi\u015f ancak Bekta\u015filer ona Sersem Ali Dedebaba diyerek tepkilerini net g\u00f6stermi\u015flerdir.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli&#8217;nin evlenmemi\u015f ve \u00e7ocuksuz oldu\u011fu, Bal\u0131m Sultan&#8217; \u0131n m\u00fccerred (evlenmeyen) dervi\u015flik erkan\u0131n\u0131 getirdi\u011fi g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fleri Sersem Ali Pa\u015fa (Dedebaba) dan sonra yay\u0131ld\u0131.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Bal\u0131m Sultan ve \u015eah Kalender varken bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fler ortada yoktu da onlar\u0131n ard\u0131ndan 23 y\u0131ll\u0131k dergah ba\u015fs\u0131z kal\u0131p nas\u0131lsa birden Dedebabal\u0131k m\u00fcessesesi ortaya \u00e7\u0131k\u0131p \u00c7elebiler d\u0131\u015fland\u0131. \u015eah Kalender 1529 as\u0131ld\u0131 dergah 23 y\u0131l ba\u015fs\u0131z kald\u0131 1552 &#8216;de Sersem Ali Pa\u015fa Dedebaba oldu.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli evlenmemi\u015f diyenler 280 y\u0131l neredeydi neden bu konu g\u00fcndeme gelmedi bu iddialar neden \u015eah Kalender Ayaklanmas\u0131 bast\u0131r\u0131l\u0131p Dergaha Server (Sersem)Ali Pa\u015fa Dedebaba olunca g\u00fcndeme ta\u015f\u0131nd\u0131. 1551&#8217;de do\u011fan bu Dedebabal\u0131k tarikata ne etkisi oldu?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Bal\u0131m Sultan&#8217;\u0131 su\u00e7layanlar onun zaman\u0131nda neden Dedebabal\u0131k yok nas\u0131l a\u00e7\u0131klayacaklar?<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Ulusoy, \u00c7elebiler soyunun g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde \u00f6nde gelen ailesi olmakla birlikte H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli&#8217;nin evlatlar\u0131 olduk\u00e7a geni\u015ftir. H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli Dergah\u0131 ve Oca\u011f\u0131na ba\u011fl\u0131 Alevi Bekta\u015filer \u00c7elebilere ba\u011fl\u0131d\u0131r. \u00c7elebilerde M\u00fcr\u015fid olarak Ulusoy ailesinden gelen Postni\u015finlere ba\u011fl\u0131 olarak Dedelik g\u00f6revlerini ve hizmetlerini Postni\u015finden al\u0131nan icazetname ile y\u00fcr\u00fctmektedirler. Ayr\u0131ca H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli ye akraba olarak bir\u00e7ok Oca\u011f\u0131n Dedelerini ba\u011fl\u0131 ocaklar olarak hizmet y\u00fcr\u00fctmektedir.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Bu geni\u015f aileyi yok saymak kendisi evlenmeyi tavsiye etmi\u015f bir insan\u0131 m\u00fccerret g\u00f6stermek pek akla ve mant\u0131\u011fa daha \u00f6nemlisi eldeki mevcut kaynaklara uymamaktad\u0131r. H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli&#8217;nin ya\u015fama bi\u00e7imine ki\u015fili\u011fine ters d\u00fc\u015fen bu fikir ayr\u0131ca \u00e7evresineve m\u00fcridlerine sadece d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesiyle de\u011fil ya\u015fant\u0131s\u0131 ile de \u00f6rnek olmu\u015f bir insan\u0131n kendi ya\u015fant\u0131s\u0131nda da evlenmemesi makul bir ya\u015fant\u0131 bi\u00e7imi de\u011fildir.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli \u00f6nce kendi soyunun, sonra da onu \u00f6rnek alan \u00e7evresini ve dervi\u015flerini muhiban\u0131n\u0131n soyunun h\u0131zla kurulup yol a\u00e7\u0131p o yolu izlemesini istemesi en do\u011fru bak\u0131\u015f ac\u0131s\u0131d\u0131r.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli zikr ve g\u00fcnd\u00fcz z\u00fchd-i takva ehli bir dervi\u015f de\u011fil, sosyal ve toplumsal ili\u015fkileri d\u00fczenleyen dinamik yenilikci bir devrimcidir. Bu bak\u0131mdan, her canl\u0131n\u0131n soyunu \u00fcretmek ve s\u00fcrd\u00fcrmek e\u011filimi ayr\u0131ca ba\u011fl\u0131 oldu\u011fu Muhammed Ali ve On iki Imam yolunun gere\u011fide budur. Ne do\u011fa yasas\u0131na ayk\u0131r\u0131 olan bu durumu ne de yolunun gere\u011fini yapmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesi olduk\u00e7a bo\u015flukta kalan bir d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncedir.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">\u015eimdi tarihi kaynaklara gelirsek konu daha da net a\u00e7\u0131lacakt\u0131r. Kad\u0131nc\u0131k Ana denmesi i\u00e7in Idris Hoca e\u011fer e\u015fi olsa Idris Hoca&#8217; \u0131n Pir, Dede, M\u00fcr\u015fid, \u015eeyh, Babai Babas\u0131(ki onlarda ba\u015flarda Seyyiddir) Seyyid e\u015fi yada k\u0131z\u0131 olmas\u0131 gerekir.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli, soy ve inan\u00e7 y\u00f6n\u00fcnden Oniki \u0130mamlara, \u0130mam Ali ve Muhammed Mustafa ba\u011fl\u0131 yani onlar\u0131n soyundan gelen bir Seyyid&#8217;dir. Muhammed Mustafa Imam Ali ve On Iki Imamlar evlenmi\u015fler \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 olmu\u015f soylar\u0131 s\u00fcrm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr. H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli&#8217;nin soyunun ve kendinin Ehli Beyt soyundan gelenler olarak bu erkan\u0131n\u0131 bu yolu izlememeleri m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fildir.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Cemalettin \u00c7elebi M\u00fcdafa eserinde Fatma Nuriye ismiyle tan\u0131nan Kad\u0131nc\u0131k Ana&#8217;n\u0131n Idris Hoca ve Kutlu Melek&#8217;in k\u0131zlar\u0131 oldu\u011funu ifade etmektedir. H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli ve Fatma Nuriye (Kad\u0131nc\u0131k Ana) dan olma Seyyid Ali Sultan nami di\u011fer Timurta\u015f Ibn-i (o\u011flu) Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f isminde ve \u015eadi isminde iki o\u011flu oldu\u011funu bu soydan M\u00fcrselliler ve H\u00fcdadadlar olarak iki soy y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnden s\u00f6z ediyor.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Bunlar\u0131n d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda devlet ve \u00f6zel ar\u015fivlerdeki resmi kay\u0131tlar ve belgeler de H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli&#8217;nin evli oldu\u011funu, \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 bulundu\u011funu kesin olarak do\u011fruluyor.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Osmanl\u0131 Padi\u015fah\u0131 Mustafa III 1177 tarihli ferman\u0131nda Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli &#8216;nin torunlar\u0131n\u0131n iki s\u0131n\u0131f oldu\u011funu birine M\u00fcrselli di\u011ferine H\u00fcdadad torunlar\u0131 dendi\u011fini s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor. Osmanl\u0131 Padi\u015fah\u0131 Mahmut II 1240 tarihli ferman\u0131nda Hazine-i amire de kay\u0131tl\u0131 oldu\u011fu \u00fczere Osmanl\u0131 \u00fclkesinde bulunan Nazaran, Tekke, Hangah ve Zaviyelerinde Baba, Dervi\u015f, Abdal, Sultan nam\u0131ndaki ki\u015filerin \u00f6l\u00fcmleri halinde gerekti\u011finde Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli&#8217;nin torunlar\u0131nda olmak \u00fczere kendi asitanesinde seccadeni\u015fin olan ki\u015finin icazet vermesi ve bildirmesi ile atamayap\u0131labilece\u011fi kad\u0131lar\u0131n ve m\u00fctevellilerin dilek\u00e7eleri ile b\u00f6yle atamalar\u0131n\u0131n yap\u0131labilece\u011fi emredilmektedir.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Osmanl\u0131 h\u00fck\u00fcmdar fermanlar\u0131nda da o ca\u011fda postta oturan ve fermanlarda ad\u0131 ge\u00e7en \u00c7elebilerin Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli&#8217;nin torunlar\u0131nda olduklar\u0131 ve bu \u00c7elebilerin yetkileri a\u00e7\u0131klanmakta konu ile ilgili emirler verilmektedir. Burada anlat\u0131lmak istenen Bekta\u015fi Babaganlar\u0131ndan baz\u0131lar\u0131 ve K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015f Alevi sureginden baz\u0131 ocaklarda yanl\u0131\u015f bilinen H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli &#8216;nin evlatlar\u0131n\u0131n olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesi ve Bal\u0131m Sultan \u0131n H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli evlad\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 onun zaman\u0131nda Osmanl\u0131ya H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli Oca\u011f\u0131n\u0131n ve derg\u00e2h\u0131n\u0131n ba\u011fland\u0131\u011f\u0131 yalan\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7\u00fcr\u00fctmek. Yoksa Bekta\u015fi Babagan s\u00fcre\u011fi Server Ali Pa\u015faya Sersem Ali Dedebaba diyerek cevab\u0131n\u0131 vermi\u015f k\u0131sa s\u00fcrede tekrar ba\u011flant\u0131 kurarak 17 Seyyid k\u00f6kenli Anadolunun ocaklar\u0131ndan ve 2 \u00c7elebi posta oturtarak bu hizmeti lay\u0131k\u0131 ile y\u00fcr\u00fctm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr. Mesele b\u00f6l\u00fcnmek birbirini yok saymak de\u011fil bug\u00fcn hizmetleri s\u00fcrd\u00fcren iki Bekta\u015fi s\u00fcregini Bekta\u015fi Babagan ve Bekta\u015fi \u00c7elebigan s\u00fcreklerini birle\u015ftirip Dergahta birlik sa\u011flamakt\u0131r.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Mehmet \u00d6zg\u00fcr Ersan Dede (Yesari Abdal \u00c7elebi)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Kaynak :<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">1)Ali Celalettin Ulusoy H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli ve Alevi Bekta\u015fi Yolu<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">2) Bedrettin Noyan Bekta\u015filik Alev\u00eelik Nedir?<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">3) Reha Y\u00fcr\u00fcko\u011flu Okunacak En B\u00fcy\u00fck Kitap \u0130nsand\u0131r Tarihte ve G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde Alevilik<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">4) Ahmet Cemalettin \u00c7elebi M\u00fcdafa<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli Hakka y\u00fcr\u00fcd\u00fckten 280 y\u0131l sonra ve \u015eah Kalender Abdal \u00c7elebi ayaklanmas\u0131n\u0131n ard\u0131ndan, yani 1551&#8217;de &#8216;Dedebabal\u0131k&#8217; ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131.Kanuni Sultan S\u00fcleyman&#8217;\u0131n Mahidevran Hatundan o\u011flu \u015eehzade Mustafa Yeni\u00e7eri Oca\u011f\u0131ndaki&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":185,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-184","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-makale"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/184","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=184"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/184\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":186,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/184\/revisions\/186"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/185"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=184"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=184"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=184"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}