{"id":187,"date":"2023-09-01T07:15:04","date_gmt":"2023-09-01T07:15:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/?p=187"},"modified":"2023-09-04T11:09:19","modified_gmt":"2023-09-04T11:09:19","slug":"hunkar-haci-bektasi-veli-ve-iki-kadincik-ana","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/?p=187","title":{"rendered":"H\u00dcNKAR HACI BEKTA\u015e\u0130 VEL\u0130 VE \u0130K\u0130 KADINCIK ANA"},"content":{"rendered":"
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\u0130lki \u0130dris Hoca ile Kutlu Melek’in k\u0131z\u0131 Fatma Nuriye’dir. H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015fi Veli Kad\u0131nc\u0131k Ana -Fatma Nuriye ile evlenmi\u015ftir.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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\u0130kinci Kad\u0131nc\u0131k Ana ise H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli’ yi G\u00fcvercin donunda Anadoluya gelirken G\u00f6zc\u00fc Karaca Ahmet’in toplad\u0131\u011f\u0131 Urum Erenlerinin meclisinde selamlayan Seyyid Nurettin K\u0131z\u0131 Fatma Bac\u0131 ile de evlenip. \u00c7ocuklar\u0131 \u015eadi, Mahmut ve Seyyit Ali K\u0131z\u0131ldeli Sultand\u0131r.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Baciyani Rum un ba\u015f\u0131nda olan Seyyid Nurettin K\u0131z\u0131 Fatma Baci ya da Hatun Ana ad\u0131yla bilinmektedir.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli’ye sormu\u015flar;<\/div>\n
-Kadinc\u0131k Ana e\u015fin mi?<\/div>\n
Bekta\u015fi yan\u0131tlam\u0131\u015f:<\/div>\n
-E\u015fim de\u011fil “E\u015fitim”..<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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H\u00fcnkar Pirin e\u015fi’de Erdir A\u015fk ile…<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Rum 30: Sen ger\u00e7ek dinin ta kendisi olan \u0130nsan’a y\u00fcz\u00fcn\u00fc d\u00f6n zira Allah’\u0131n yarat\u0131\u015f f\u0131trat\u0131nda kad\u0131n ve erkek i\u00e7in, hi\u00e7 bir farkl\u0131l\u0131k yoktur, ayr\u0131m yapmamak i\u015fte ger\u00e7ek din budur.<\/div>\n
Kura’n n\u0131 azim\u00fcn\u015fan bunu b\u00f6yle s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor Hak ile canlar.<\/div>\n
Kad\u0131nla erkek e\u015fit degil diyen M\u00fcnaf\u0131k olan insanlar<\/div>\n
beli olsun i\u015fte en g\u00fczel yan\u0131t.”<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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”Bizim Nazar\u0131m\u0131zda, Kad\u0131n Erkek fark\u0131 yok.<\/div>\n
Noksanl\u0131k da,eksiklikte., senin g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fLerinde.”<\/div>\n
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Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f-i Veli<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015fi Veli Seyyid Nurettin’in k\u0131z\u0131 Fatma Bac\u0131 ile Baciyan \u0131 Rum \u00fczerinde etkinlik kurmu\u015ftur.( A\u015f\u0131k Pa\u015fazade’nin Hatun Ana diye tarifledi\u011fi G\u00f6zc\u00fc Karaca Ahmet ile Rum Erenlerin meclisinde G\u00fcvercin Donunda gelen H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015fi Veli ‘ye selam veren Kad\u0131nc\u0131k Ana Fatma Bac\u0131 -Hatun Ana Bac\u0131yan\u0131 Rumun Anadolu Bac\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131 idi.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Vel\u00ee, \u0130dris Hoca ile kar\u0131s\u0131 Kutlu Melek\u2019in<\/div>\n
misafiri olarak bir s\u00fcre evlerinde kal\u0131r ve ib\u00e2detle me\u015fgul olmaya ba\u015flar. Sulucakarah\u00f6y\u00fck\u2019te, H\u00fcnk\u00e2r Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Vel\u00ee\u2019nin k\u0131sa zamanda m\u00fcridleri \u00e7o\u011fal\u0131r. G\u00f6rd\u00fckleri ker\u00e2metler, ona ba\u011flanmak istemeyen \u00e2si<\/div>\n
ve inat\u00e7\u0131 miza\u00e7taki insanlar\u0131 bile yumu\u015fat\u0131r.( H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015fi Veli Velayetnamesi Abd\u00fclbaki G\u00f6lp\u0131narl\u0131 sayfa 18)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Velayetname ise Fatma Bac\u0131 ( Kad\u0131nc\u0131k Ana) ise Seyyid Nurettinin k\u0131z\u0131 oland\u0131r.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli, Horasan’dan Rum \u00fclkesini (Anadolu’yu)ayd\u0131nlatmak i\u00e7in g\u00f6nderildi. H\u00fcnkar, Rum \u00fclkesine yakla\u015f\u0131nca mana aleminden, Rum erenlerine, “Essalam\u00fcn aleyk\u00fcm Rum’daki erenler ve karde\u015fler” diye selam verdi. Bu s\u0131rada Rum \u00fclkesinde, elli yedi bin<\/div>\n
Rum ereni, sohbette, meclisteydi. Rum’un g\u00f6zc\u00fcs\u00fc de Karaca Ahmed’di.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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H\u00fcnkar’\u0131n selam verdi\u011fi, Fat\u0131ma Bac\u0131’ya malum oldu. Bu kad\u0131n,Sivrihisar’da, Seyyid Nureddin’in k\u0131z\u0131yd\u0131, hen\u00fcz evlenmemi\u015fti, Meclisteki erenlere yemek pi\u015firmedeydi. Karaca Ahmed de Seyyid Nureddin’in m\u00fcridiydi. Fat\u0131ma Bac\u0131, aya\u011fa kalk\u0131p H\u00fcnkar’\u0131n bulundu\u011futarafa d\u00f6nd\u00fc, elini g\u00f6\u011fs\u00fcne koydu, \u00fc\u00e7 kere “Aleyk\u00fcmesselam” dedi,<\/div>\n
yerine oturdu. Meclistekiler, bu hali g\u00f6r\u00fcnce,”Kimin selam\u0131n\u0131 ald\u0131n”dediler. Fat\u0131ma Bac\u0131, “Rum \u00fclkesine bir er geliyor, siz erenlere selam verdi, onun selam\u0131n\u0131 al\u0131yoruz” dedi. Erenler dediler ki: “O, Rum<\/div>\n
\u00fclkesine (Anadolu’ya) gelirse \u00fclkeyi al\u0131r, halk\u0131 kendisine muhib eder, art\u0131k Rum’da bize oyun kalmaz. Bir \u015fey yapal\u0131m da Rum \u00fclkesine sokmayal\u0131m.” Baz\u0131s\u0131 “Kanat kanata gerelim, ar\u015f alt\u0131nda Sidre’ye dek yolu keselim, Rum’a giremesin” dedi. Hepsi bu tedbiri uygun buldu,<\/div>\n
vilayet kanatlar\u0131n\u0131 birbirine \u00e7att\u0131lar, yol ba\u011flad\u0131lar. Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli, Rum s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131na var\u0131nca yolun ba\u011flanm\u0131\u015f oldu\u011funu g\u00f6rd\u00fc, “Bismillah ve billah” dedi, vilayetle bir s\u0131\u00e7rad\u0131, ulu ar\u015f\u0131n tavan\u0131na yeti\u015fti.Melekler, elifi tac ile kar\u015f\u0131lad\u0131lar. “Merhaba, safa geldin ey Peygamberlerin evlad\u0131 Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli” dediler. H\u00fcnkar, ordan bir<\/div>\n
g\u00fcvercin \u015fekline girdi, u\u00e7arak do\u011fruca Sulucakarah\u00f6y\u00fck’e indi, bir ta\u015f\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcne kondu. M\u00fcbarek ayaklar\u0131, hamura g\u00f6m\u00fcl\u00fcr gibi ta\u015fa<\/div>\n
g\u00f6m\u00fcld\u00fc.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015fi Veli E\u015fi Fatma Nuriye Idris Hoca ve Kutlu Melek k\u0131z\u0131 m\u0131 ? Yoksa Seyyid Nurettin K\u0131z\u0131 Fatma Bac\u0131 m\u0131d\u0131r?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015fi Veli Hakk\u0131nda ba\u015fka bir velayetnameye g\u00f6re ise H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli ‘nin iki evlilik yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ‘ iki hatin ald\u0131\u011f\u0131’ bilgi vard\u0131r.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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‘ Bilesiz kim H\u00fcnkar iki hatun ald\u0131. D\u00fcnyal\u0131k Seyyid Nureddin k\u0131z\u0131 Fat\u0131ma Ana’dandur. Habib Emircem ( \u015eadi), H\u0131z\u0131r Lale ( Seyyid Ali Sultan K\u0131z\u0131ldeli), Seyyid Mahmut, Hatem ve Sakine evlatlar\u0131d\u0131r. Mahmud bali\u011f olmadan d\u00fcnyadan g\u00f6\u00e7ti. H\u00fcnkar ard\u0131ndan nice g\u00fcn mahzun old\u0131.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Idris Hoca k\u0131z\u0131 Nuriye Ana ahretlik idi. Badehu H\u00fcnkar’ \u0131n ulu dergah\u0131nda iki post dur\u0131r. M\u00fccerret postu, d\u00fcnyaluk g\u00f6rmemi\u015f, pak ve ar\u0131d\u0131r. M\u00fcteehhil post\u0131, evlen\u00fcr, d\u00fcnyaya nesiller getir\u00fcr. Bileler kim ikiside hakd\u00fcr\u00fcr. Maada bileler kim an\u0131n hizmetin idenler niced\u00fcr.( Baki Ya\u015fa Alt\u0131nok Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli Hakk\u0131nda Yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015f Bir Menak\u0131bname ve Bu Menak\u0131bnamede Belirtilen Anadoludaki Alevi Ocaklar\u0131 s.7)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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B\u00f6ylece iki velayetname birbirini tamaml\u0131yor. H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli evlenmemi\u015f tezi \u00e7\u00fcr\u00fcyor onun yerine hatta iki kere evlendi\u011fi birisi d\u00fcnyal\u0131k ikincisi ahiretlik evlili\u011fi olarak birinciden yani Seyyid Nurettin’in k\u0131z\u0131ndan \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 oldu\u011fu boylece netle\u015fmi\u015f oluyor.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Zaten temel eseri Erkan olarak Makalat eserinde en eski n\u00fcshas\u0131nda bile Nikah K\u0131ymak ibaresi 4 Kap\u0131 40 Makam i\u00e7erisinde \u015eeriat Kap\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n makamlar\u0131 aras\u0131nda bulunmaktad\u0131r. Kendisinin taliplerine \u00f6nerdi\u011fini H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli’nin yapmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 fikri \u00e7eli\u015fkili g\u00f6z\u00fckmektedir. Do\u011fal olarak ki\u015fisel tekam\u00fcl\u00fc tamamlamakta nikah k\u0131ymak bir merhale diyen bir Pirin kendisini evlenmemesi s\u00f6z konusu olamaz. B\u00f6ylece H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015fi Veli ‘nin Seyyid Nureddin K\u0131z\u0131 Fatma Bac\u0131 ile evlendi\u011fi Mahmut Habib (\u015eadi) ve H\u0131z\u0131r Lale diye erkek \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 oldu\u011fu soyunun burdan t\u00fcreyerek \u00c7elebilerin bug\u00fcne kadar devam etti\u011fi art\u0131k kesin kan\u0131tlarla netle\u015fmi\u015ftir. Burun kan\u0131 sembolik bir ifade olarak ge\u00e7ti\u011fi a\u00e7\u0131kt\u0131r.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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A\u015fk ile Hu<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Mehmet \u00d6zg\u00fcr Ersan Dede Yesari Abdal \u00c7elebi<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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1)H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015fi Veli Velayetnamesi Abd\u00fclbaki G\u00f6lp\u0131narl\u0131 sayfa 18<\/div>\n
2)Baki Ya\u015fa Alt\u0131nok Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli Hakk\u0131nda Yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015f Bir Menak\u0131bname ve Bu Menak\u0131bnamede Belirtilen Anadoludaki Alevi Ocaklar\u0131 s.7<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

\u0130lki \u0130dris Hoca ile Kutlu Melek’in k\u0131z\u0131 Fatma Nuriye’dir. H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015fi Veli Kad\u0131nc\u0131k Ana -Fatma Nuriye ile evlenmi\u015ftir. \u0130kinci Kad\u0131nc\u0131k Ana ise H\u00fcnkar Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Veli’ yi G\u00fcvercin donunda…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":273,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-187","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-makale"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=187"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":274,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187\/revisions\/274"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/273"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=187"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=187"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mehmetozgurersan.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=187"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}